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·· Sep 18
30 years ago for some reason guys had trouble fixing the minute counter gears when they broke. In fact 1/2 of the originals had broke minute counters. My dad had a nice cottage business for a short time taking the ones from MIG fighter jets (yes they are identical) and putting the correct face, arms and cover on them. He would get 4500 bucks for them.

·· Sep 18
As in Russian MIG?

·· Sep 18
Yes.

·· Sep 18
The hard part was finding the ones with the minute counter instead of the 30 second counter. Then he would have a clock smith convert the swept hands to a roller barrell.

·· Sep 18
For those converting these in the future, find a good way to dispose of the dial and hands. The amount of radioactivity coming off that is insane. Possibly a lifetime of radiation in one year if you park yourself next to it all day. The rest of the case and movement should be fine. I had a Navy ships clock for 30 years and only recently saw someone on-line put a geiger-muller tube up to it. Luckily I was never near it except weekly to wind it. It's much more than a standard '30s wristwatch which has very small dots around the dial.

·· Sep 18
Interesting. Didn't seem to affect my dad as he lived to 97 and started that project in his 60s. Where is the radiation coming from?

·· Sep 18
AJ, the off white paint on the hands and numbers (2, 4, 8, 10 on the MIG version above). It's radium so it would originally glow in the dark. The glowing aspect fails after 5-10 years but the radioactivity remains. The half life is 1600 years. It's not really a problem unless you constantly inhale the dust when working on multiple ones, or unless you sleep with it under a pillow....

·· Sep 19
After looking at this awhile I have one more detail: Jager LeCoultre did make these for Russia initially. However just before WWII the First State Watch Factory in the USSR began to make their own. Their case housing is different and plates are different. Some parts swap but not all. Importantly the balance is not temperature compensated like the original version and I would think it would be a bit difficult to get running with good accuracy. So, in my opinion, it is best to find a Swiss unit if doing a conversion.
Interestingly, LeCoultre continued production up to about 1990 and their updated caliber went into Boeing 707, 727 and 737s so we can at least consider the design reliable for sure.
Interestingly, LeCoultre continued production up to about 1990 and their updated caliber went into Boeing 707, 727 and 737s so we can at least consider the design reliable for sure.

·· Sep 19
Thanks Dan! Wow. What you are saying about the radiation makes complete sense now.

·· Sep 19
Or if you put the paintbrush in your mouth. Oh the things they did before the OSHA days.
https://www.britannica.com/story/radium-girls-the-women-who-fought-for-their-lives-in-a-killer-workplace
https://www.britannica.com/story/radium-girls-the-women-who-fought-for-their-lives-in-a-killer-workplace

·· Sep 18
Here is the front of one my dad gave me for Xmas 25 years ago.

·· Sep 18
And the back. This started as a MIG clock.

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·· Sep 18
I prefer the later swept needle instruments. Easier to read. But the Chronograph is identical either way.
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