@alsancle 
Beautiful car. Hope someone can give it some love.

@ShawnG Shawn, these are super cool and rarely seen.  This one is the 126" wheelbase with the larger engine.  @Hupp31 can give us the specs but it was "top of the line".   I think Hupp only made something like 600 total I series cars against all 4 of the body styles,  Coupe, Conv, Victoria and sedan.

@alsancle Unfortunately, Hupp had to pull the plug on the big 133hp eights due to the economic situation so they had to make their mid-range eight the top of line. They enlarged the engine of the previous model C to 303ci for the I-226. That gave it a mild hp improvement to 109. They built 712 as 1932 models with the shorter hood and vertical grille. No data exists as to body style production numbers but sedans would make up the vast majority.

@Hupp31   I think this is the I sedan.

@alsancle It is. That’s a nice one. I’d put money on the fact that at least half of the cycle fenders were that same Amazon Stone Gray/ Boone brown combination. Contrary to popular belief, not just a 1970s restoration faux pas.

@Ralph71

@Ralph71 This is the other restored car. The black one is more correct aside from the stupid spotlights.

@Hupp31 Dragone car?

@tom1980 Yes, I believe so. They also sold the 1932 I-226 Victoria which is a sole survivor.

@BillSmith Yes, the 1932 Chicago show car is the only model I Victoria known.

@Hupp31 Travis, I asked Manny when he had this car how he knew it was the Chicago auto show car.  Lots of people throw around the auto show thing but it is nice to know exactly where that comes from.   I don't remember the anwswer which makes me wonder.

@alsancle It could be speculation. I thought I remembered something about them only building a few of them to start with, but that could be speculation too. I seem to remember something being mentioned in this video, whether or not it’s true.

@alsancle Definitely an F-222

@Hupp31 One I have never seen before.  Although I think I dropped out of the Hupp club a while ago so I'm sure those guys knew about it.  I didn't mean to drop the club but I put my wife in charge of renewal's and I would accidently drop a few every year and i would take me 6 months to notice the newsletters are not longer coming in.

@alsancle I don’t think that one has been in the newsletters anyhow. Honestly, you haven’t been missing much. I’ve grown a bit disenchanted with the club to be honest. It seems all anyone wants to do is post incorrect information on the Facebook page. I’ve made two attempts to get documents from the club library, got half of what I was looking for the first time and no response the second. Inquired about sharing a photo album with the club and got a one sentence response and haven’t heard another word.

@Hupp31 
Lots of mouth breathers on Facebook.
I've pretty much given up trying to help people on there with their car problems.
Hopefully Rumbleseat takes it's place.

@alsancle  I saw that one. Hopefully someone grabs it for parts before it gets cut up. Too bad it’s missing the engine.

@Hupp31 Travis,  what model is it?  F-222?

@alsancle Sorry, missed your question last week. It’s an F-322. ‘32 model F had louvers and no doors on the hood.

@Hupp31 Looks like it has a buyer but he's thinking resto-rod.

@BLK-10001 Well, short of a parts car, a restomod is probably the only practical use for that blue sedan, unfortunately. Missing the engine is big a problem because it’s very unlikely that you’ll find another. You could probably count the remaining engines on your fingers and toes and have some digits left over.

@Hupp31 I HATE resto-mods but in this case I don't see the car being restored.

@alsancle keeping it out of the crusher is probably the best we can hope for.

@alsancle I see from a new post on the Hupmobile club page, the new owner is thankfully having second thoughts about rodding this car. The feasibility of restoring is still in question. I see this one turning into a hot potato because nobody wants to be the guy to cut it up.

@ShawnG Yes it is. That’s a 1933-1934 by the full length hood, slanted grille, and windshield shape. That makes it a K-321 or K-421 if it’s a six or an F-322 or F-422 if an eight. I seem to remember it being posted to the AACA about a year ago asking what it was. I believe it was a six. Obviously the owner didn’t listen because they think it’s a 32. That post shows the FB problem in a nutshell. The first reply was from a very knowledgeable guy in the club. The rest are mostly incorrect.

@ShawnG I just saw there was an engine photo way down in the replies. Definitely a Model K. Looks like a solid car.

@Hupp31 Some of the facebook responses you see in general are so wrong that it makes me wonder who they are.  Confident but stupid.

@BuickGuy68 Exactly. That’s why I’ve never been able to bring myself to join.

@Hupp31 Travis, I have posted 3 times because hte respoonses were so stupid I had to set thing straight.  I just created my accont last year after using my wifes for a decade.  I wanted to communicate with some marketplace advertisments.   I'm not a fan.

@Hupp31 Here are the rest of the photos.

@alsancle It does look like there’s a fairly decent car under all that dust. Could be made into a good driver.

@Hupp31 100% agree.  Rust along the rear apron but the rest looks solid.   The problem for the seller is that it is a 10k on a good day.  Not sure what his expectations are.   These have a following of astute collectors (see you and I as expamples).

@alsancle
I've given up.
I had a guy tell me that a Packard Twin Six was an inline twelve engine.
He stuck to his opinion in spite of others correcting him.
The signal-to-noise ratio on Facebook is bad.

@ShawnG I'm not a fan of heavy moderation but the level of idiocy on there is insane.

@alsancle
With restoration costs what they are these days. I'd be inclined to do the mechanical work to make it safe, wipe it with an oily rag and drive it.

@ShawnG Shawn,  it is impossible now to do paint and cosmetics so you are 100% correct on this car.

@ShawnG Yup, you’d be upside down after you bought paint, let alone actually putting it on the car.

@ShawnG Needs to be mechanics only.  Maybe you get lucky and the engine is not frozen.

@ShawnG Facebook is a cesspool. But every once in a while there is a gem posted ike this car.

@ShawnG Fun Fact: One of these victorias started in Bonnie and Clyde in 1967.

@Hupp31  Excellent movie with Faye Dunaway and Warren Beatty.  I saw the Ford death car as a kid.  It was quite the traveling attraction.

@alsancle  Great Movie!  The death car is at Volo.

@alsancle  Faye Dunaway circa 1967 was quite the attraction too.

@ShawnG  I just got around to adding this in the marketplace for future reference.   It is still available at 8k.  Bill of sale only, which is hard on some buyers.  But I can think of worse ways to spend 8k.

https://app.rumbleseat.com/admin/marketplace/listing/5600233

@alsancle Glad I’m not the only one. A few club members either identified right away or gave correct information. The rest was a total cluster. They did finally post a photo of the body tag so it’s definitely a K-321 by that number. Very few victorias even with a six.

@alsancle Cool! Model I, no less.

@Hupp31 The comments were killing me.

@Hupp31 Thank you!  I was getting confused.

@Rambler0155 It’s simple once you know the numbering system but jibberish when you don’t.

@Rambler0155 Another quick cheat sheet for the cycle fender cars:
1932 only had eights, the F and I. They had a vertical grille and shorter hood. Only the I had doors on the hood.

1933-1934 the six cylinder K was added. There was a minor facelift and all models had a slanted grille and full length hood, all with hood doors.

Late 1933 the model KK was added as a lower cost option with more basic trim than the K. Same styling as other 33-34 models but the hood had simple louvers rather than doors.

@Hupp31 I always knew th last 2 digits were the wheelbase but did not get the redundancy on the letters.

@alsancle the letter and wheelbase redundancy did come in handy in 1934 when there was a K-421, KK-421, and J-421. There was also a J-521 and O-521. Kind of a flawed system.

Travis,  just saw your cheat sheet.  Thanks!  I've been following these for 20 years and still get confused.

Well, it’s not helped by the fact that the differences in wheelbase are difficult to see in photos so sometimes you can’t be certain what you’re looking at.

@Hupp31 Great looking car!   Is 24K considered a deal for something like this?

@69GoatMan I would say it was a decent deal. The eight cylinder cycle fenders are quite rare even in a sedan. I was planning on bidding on this car but my wife shot me down because it as too similar to my ‘31, besides I had my eye on a different car in the collection.

@Hupp31 I think Parker said ths one was a great car.

@alsancle It sure looked like it. Only thing that held me back was how it would have been a lateral move from the car I already have, styling aside. Basically the same engine with 1/8” more bore and 6 more hp.

@Hupp31 It think the model H would have been the better play,  but you never know how far the other guy will go.

@alsancle It was the better play. Major regrets not having looked at that car while it was still in CT, it might have given me more confidence to go higher. But like you say, for all we know the other guy might have been willing to go to 50k and it wouldn’t matter anyhow.

@Hupp31 Great Photo!!!!

@Hupp31 I won't make a crack about the hood ornament.

@alsancle I have a framed photo of the same car with the same ornament on the door trim. It was a newsprint ad for a cigarette company and I realized later that it’s a reversed image because the license plate bracket is on the wrong side.

@Hupp31 😂😂😂

Good sleuthing btw.

That is cool and I have never seen it before.

Travis, can you find the modern photo?

Not the best photo as you can’t get a very good look at the rear of the body. Looks like European plates. Maybe it’s still in Switzerland.

I assume it must still be in Europe. Very cool.  Coachbuilt Hupp.  Not many of those.

Do you know where that show was?

1933 New York show

Great photo!   Seems to be a lot of Hupps in Europe at the time. Something I was unaware of .  Did they have a European distributor?

They had distributors in quite a few European countries as far as I know. There are a lot of French advertisements out there. I’ve even seen some from Scandinavia. Also South Africa, Australia, and New Zealand. I think most of their distributors were established in the high production days of the 20’s.

Are those before and after shots of the same car? If so, I’m surprised they opted for black fenders. Body color was an available option and I personally think it looks better. But I won’t say no to an F Victoria either way.

Cool photo.  I like the wooden wheels.

The cycle fender Hupmobiles were their last body style to use wood wheels as standard, all the way up into 1934.

Interesting.  Most manufacturers had gone the other way and the wood wheels (if they had them) were an option.  You could get wood wheels on a Packard up through at least 35.

The funny thing is that the wood wheels were available either natural or painted for the same price.

Would that be because natural was still shellacked or something like that so same amount of work?

Could be. I take it to mean that there likely wasn’t any pinstriping on the painted wheels, as well.

On second thought, it was earlier cars that had painted and natural at the same price. On the cycle fenders the painted wood and wire were the same price. The dealer price list shows natural wheels as a $2.50 each option.

I never did dig out my parts book for you did I?  I need to do that.

Great photos Travis!  Where did you find them?

I think the car would look better without the multi-colored wheels but I'll take it as is.

I actually found them on eBay. They’re the only period photos that I’ve seen of cycle fender cars with wide whites. I also think it’s one of the only that I’ve seen of a coupe.

Were they marked "hupmobile"?   I clearly missed them.

They were but they were marked with the wrong years. They hadn’t been on there more than a few days though.

I'm happy you got them.  We don't need to be bidding against each other to make sellers think they have a goldmine with Hupmobile photos!!

This made me think about that 326 Coupe.   I reminded my friend who is local to it that when the time comes I will step up.  Lets see if I follow through.

😂I don’t know as there’s ever been a gold mine in anything Hupmobile.

I do hope that 326 coupe sees daylight again some day.