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1925 Stutz Remy Generator Problem

sldan · 2007-11-18T13:54:22.000Z

How have you guys dealt with the deteriorating pot metal end plate on 1920 era Remy generators?I have a 1925 Remy Generator 917-R on my 1925 Stutz 693 Roadster and the end plate that holds the brushes is starting to fall apart and must be replaced.Thank you all in advance.Dan

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Replies (23)

· Nov 22, 2007

I have a good restorable 1928-29 era REMY 947-A generator. It has no mounting ears, probably secured with a clamping mechanism.

Do you know the Remy part number for the end plate? I'll try to see if I can find a part number breakdown, the end plate may interchange.

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· Nov 22, 2007

dep5,

Thank you for the reply. I do not know the part number for the end plate but have included photos.

The generator is a 917-R three brush 18 amp counter-clockwise rotation unit. 8.0 - 8.5 hot test volts at 1800 to 2000 rpm.

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· Nov 23, 2007

It looks like the end frame is the bug. ( I think some starters of that era used a similar casting) These interchanges may provide a clue to a donor or replacement generator. Good Luck.(My generator uses same bearings and brushes but end frame is different, it won't help you)

Source: 1937 Hollander Interchange

Hollander #312, 917-R generator

See #4-#9, #318, #173

Stutz 1923-24 660,95

Indiana 1923-26 20,25,35

Maccar 1925-28 30,46

Hollander #4, 917V

Auburn 1923-26 6-63,8-88

Apperson 1925 8

Gardner 1925-26 3H,8H,8

Kissel 1925-26 8

Hollander #5, 917J

Auburn 1923-26 6-63,8-88

Hollander #6, 941D

Auburn 1925-26 6-66,8-88,4-44

Elcar 1926-27 8-88

Velie 1928 8-88

various other

Hollander #7, 917W

Apperson 1925 8

Velie 1925 50,60

Hollander #8, 941B

various

Hollander #9, 941R

various

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· Nov 23, 2007

Thank you very much for the info. I will stay on the search.

Dan

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· Jan 17, 2008

I found a pattern maker that will make me a pattern, have the piece cast out of aluminum then machined to final dimension.

I do not have his final pricing yet but may consider having a few extras made to offer for sale.

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· Jan 19, 2008

You might check with the Stutz club - someone told me these may have been made in Australia. We needed one very quickly a couple of years ago and found a Chevy starter end that would work (not correct, but functional)and I never followed up on the Aussie ones. If you make or find them, let me know, my friend may want one too. The originals are notoriously prone to trouble. Dave Mitchell packard12s@hotmail.com

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· Jan 23, 2008

Dave,

I will have a all of the pricing and delivery info for newly cast and machined end plates tomorrow.

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· Jul 22, 2008

Here is an update on my pot metal generator end housing problem.

I gave the pattern maker the go ahead to make the pattern off of the original Remy 917-R end housing.

I will have an aluminum casting in a few monthes to machine.

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· Oct 14, 2009

I have succeeded in reproducing the generator end housing.

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· Oct 15, 2009

Very nice work!! Can you make some of these 1931 Dodge bumper clamps? The original is cast, but I don't care either way.

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· Oct 18, 2009

I suggest that you contact Dave, the pattern maker that made the pattern and had the castings made, at Ohio Pattern. His number is 614 875-9599.

I have had him make the pattern for the generator end housing and a pattern for the speedo drive/rear bearing retainer for my Warner 3 speed transmission.

He specializes in antique car parts patterns and castings.

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· Feb 22, 2010

Dan,

Any chance you had extra Remy end supports made? If so, would you be willing to sell one? Thanks for a reply.

Scott

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· Feb 22, 2010

Scott,

I do have an extra casting that has not been machined for my Remy 917-R generator off on my 1925 Stutz 693. See the attached photo.

I do not know what other cars of the time used this same generator configuration and end housing.

Take a look at the photos to make sure the part is what you need.

I had not thought much about selling a casting but if you need one we can discuss.

There is a lot of machining involved and I am not a machinist. I had the pattern made and had two castings made.

A friend did the machining. A local machine shop wanted $450.00.

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· Feb 22, 2010

Dan,

The end casting looks just like the one on my 1923 Studebaker Light Six which has a Remy 917-A generator. I have the same disintegration issue. I know that the machining will take a bit of work. Please let me know if you would be willing to part with your spare casting and what you would be wanting for it.

You can reply to smrdeza@power-net.net

Thanks for the consideration,

Scott

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· Feb 25, 2010

Scott,

I just sent you an email.

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· May 26, 2010

Dan

I to have the potmetal problem and are looking for a replacement. My generator is a Remy 721A and looks identical to yours. Could the guy make another one & how much does he charge?

Graham

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· May 27, 2010

Hi Graham,

I will ask the machinist who machined my casting if he is interested in making another one and how much he would want to do it. Unfortunately we did not make a drawing.

I only had two castings made. I used one and just sold the other one to a Studebaker guy. He plans to machine it himself. I will send him an email to see if he would machine you one while he is doing his or make a drawing so you could have it machined locally.

I own the pattern and can have more castings made. I would need to check on the current price from the foundry.

Dan

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· May 27, 2010

Dan

Thanks for the info. I am making a patern at the moment & will have a go at casting it myself. I would do my own mavhining it is just the casting I am after so would be interested in a cost if you are able to get them done.

Graham

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· May 27, 2010

I will check and get back to you.

I will reply via private message to you when I get the info.

Attached is a photo of the original, the casting, and the finished new end plate on my distributor.

I bench tested the generator with the new end plate and all is good.

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· May 28, 2010

Graham,

I just sent you a private message with information on the casting.

What car are you working on?

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· May 30, 2010

Dan

As per PM thanks again. I am restoring a 1924 Model 63 International 3 Ton truck.

Graham

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· May 30, 2010

Dan

I just uploaded a photo in the gallery under Intermodel63. I know it is not a Stutz but still a piece of our motoring history.

Graham

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· May 31, 2010

Graham,

What a great truck!! It would be great to see some recent photos.

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